I ordered 2 pair of these shoes in my normal size 8 W. These shoes fot unbelievably narrow. They came in almost 2 months apart as one pair was back ordered. These are by no means wide as they were marked. There is a $9.95 charge to send the shoes back although a free shipping label is sent. My credit card would have been charged for the shipping upon receipt of the shoes back at the warehouse. This is the first 8 wides that have fit so tight. Be cautious. They fit like average mediums.