What a disapointment. These were not S.U.P.R.O. Sock shoes as advertised. I had to return them. I must say Haband's return policy is the very best. I've made exchanges in the past w/out problems - I've received refunds when my size was not available. They do what they say they will do. They stand by their products - You can bank on Haband! I've been a customer for years.